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Alexis Fernandez-Preiksa, host of DYFM?, on why you should choose discomfort first.

Discomfort is inevitable; the only choice is when you feel it. Alexis explains the difference between quick "dumb" dopamine and the slower, earned kind, and why doing the hard thing first gives you the drive for everything else, even the fun things.

Interviewed by Jess Wilson · Influential Women Series · The Pillars, Sydney · October 2026

Three takeaways on dopamine and discomfort.

  1. 01Discomfort is always a trade-off. Feel it now and enjoy the reward after, or take the quick hit now and feel the disappointment later.
  2. 02Quick dopamine ends in a crash. Scrolling and shopping give you a fast spike, then drop you below baseline, like a sugar crash, and leave you with no drive.
  3. 03Earn it, and it lasts. Exercise or a task that’s hard enough to show progress releases dopamine slowly, during the process and after, and lifts your motivation for everything else.

Full transcript

Lightly edited for readability.

Jess Wilson: We spoke a lot today around high performance, and in high performance there is that piece of discomfort to be able to get there. Can you share a little bit around that for us?

Alexis: Yeah. So when you look at discomfort, I always say it’s inevitable. There’s always going to be a level of discomfort. If we do something we like, and if we do something we don’t like, there will always be some sort of trade-off. We either trade in the discomfort now for the pleasure after, that dopamine, like we were talking about before, this earned dopamine versus the quick dopamine. Or we feel that discomfort after, of not having done what we wanted to do, and being disappointed in ourselves.

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